The Next Happy, Interview with Tracey Cleantis

Tracey CleantisYou know when you sometimes you read a book and it grabs you by the throat and says ‘this is important,’ well Tracey’s book, ‘The Next Happy: Let Go of the Life You Planned and Find a New Way Forward’. did that to me and I knew that I had to talk to her about it.

The Next Happy is a really inspirational book which includes some great tools and techniques to help readers work through their loss and find their next happy. I love the way Tracey uses humour in her writing and also films as prescriptions.

This is a book for anyone who’s ever had a dream that hasn’t worked out (so that’s pretty much everyone then). So if you’re in the process of coming to terms with your life after childlessness you should definitely read it.

In this video we talk about why grief is essential, what weather has to do with making progress and how exploring the reasons behind your dream will help you identify your next happy.the next happy

So take a look and learn how accepting and owning her story helped Tracey to be able to say that ‘if I’d had children, I would never have known the happiness I’m enjoying so fully today & I wouldn’t trade that for anything, not even children.’

And I must say she’s proof that her techniques work, she smiled the whole way through our conversation!

Tracey kindly wrote her Inspirational Story for me a while ago and it was so fantastic for me to finally ‘meet ‘ her, albeit on Skype. I think we could have chatted for ages, and you’ll be pleased to know that we limited the video to less than 20 minutes.


You can read more about Tracey on her website.

And you can buy The Next Happy on Amazon UK and Amazon US & other book retailers.

What do you think?

How did our conversation resonate with you? Please share your comments below to help other women.

2 thoughts on “The Next Happy, Interview with Tracey Cleantis”

  1. Very interesting interview Lesley – thank you. Isn’t it funny how we never question WHY we want children because it’s just seen as “normal”? Of course people want children for all sorts of reasons – to recreate the happy family they never had; to save their marriage; to please their own parents’ to fit in with their friends; so that they’ll be looked after in their old age; because they don’t know what else to do with their lives ! Very useful reminder from Tracey that we always need to look at WHY we have a particular dream – and whatever needs we think that it will fulfill, then to ask ourselves: how else could we do it ? She comes over as a lovely person too.

    • Thanks Caroline,
      You’re right, we never question the why & doing so helps our healing so much as then we can explore other ways to get what we wanted.
      And yes, she is a lovely person.


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